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Post by stevec on Sept 18, 2014 21:30:38 GMT -6
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Post by woodrowli on Sept 21, 2014 18:10:58 GMT -6
Some good places to contact a disease at: Church, Shopping malls, Concerts, Sport events, School, Work place, Hospitals etc basically anyplace there are people.
Caution entering Silly Mode:
Very simple safe guards can greatly reduce the risk. Such as wear full Haz-Mat gear anytime you leave the house. Avoid bathing to discourage people from getting close, stay at home and be a hermit etc
Overall, don't do anything unless the benefits offset the risks.
Now returning to serious mode. the churches can take steps to reduce the dangers, individual disposable cup for the communion wine, individually wrapped communion wafers, etc.
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Post by stevec on Sept 22, 2014 10:52:48 GMT -6
Consumer Beware!
My point, as always, is that prayer never reduces risk.
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Post by ken on Sept 22, 2014 15:13:45 GMT -6
Consumer Beware! My point, as always, is that prayer never reduces risk. I'm SURE that it was prayer that gave them wisdom as per James 1.
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Post by stevec on Sept 22, 2014 16:04:20 GMT -6
Consumer Beware! My point, as always, is that prayer never reduces risk. I'm SURE that it was prayer that gave them wisdom as per James 1. What wisdom would that be?
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Post by stevec on Sept 22, 2014 20:14:10 GMT -6
Saeed Abedini's 2-Year Prison Anniversary Marked by Prayer Vigils www.christianheadlines.com/blog/saeed-abedini-s-2-year-prison-anniversary-marked-by-prayer-vigils.htmlWill the Muslim will prevail, or will god answer Christian prayers? So far, the Christian god is losing and so is Abedini as a consequence. Two years have gone by and Abedini is no closer to being released, despite all the prayers to god up to this point. Why would the Iranians release Abedini and give Christians some sort of moral victory or validation? Abedini would have a better chance if Christians stopped advocating with prayer vigils. The following request is bizarre from my perspective; "Organizations and churches are invited to host a prayer vigil. To register a vigil and receive information on coordinating a vigil, email gobalvigil2014@gmail.com. Promotional materials to promote the event are located at beheardproject.com."
What effect will registering and coordination have on god? I'd like to get the numbers after the fact so that I can flaunt prayer's ineffectiveness. Someday, Abedini will be released..............maybe, but at what point will Christians feel god was irrelevant?
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Post by ken on Sept 23, 2014 18:42:09 GMT -6
I'm SURE that it was prayer that gave them wisdom as per James 1. What wisdom would that be? To not pass communion cup around. We don't check our brains out when we receive Jesus Christ. God's presence augments our wisdom since it is higher than man's wisdom. James 1 says He would be happy to give you some. And we take a scientific approach to things as well as reading reports very carefully. The post said "may be spreading" and not "is spreading".
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Post by stevec on Sept 23, 2014 19:28:56 GMT -6
What wisdom would that be? To not pass communion cup around. We don't check our brains out when we receive Jesus Christ. God's presence augments our wisdom since it is higher than man's wisdom. James 1 says He would be happy to give you some. And we take a scientific approach to things as well as reading reports very carefully. The post said "may be spreading" and not "is spreading". Just for starters, young Earth creationism certainly flies in the face of those facts. In light of such wisdom, and people such as Benny Hinn, and countless other haphazard applications of scientific principles, I will pass on James 1 and any other numbers James has to offer. Here's some wisdom for you: SteveC 92:632 - Brethren, if all you've learned from James 1 is not to share spit in communion cup, then there's evolutionary hope for all of us.
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Post by ken on Sept 24, 2014 15:41:57 GMT -6
To not pass communion cup around. We don't check our brains out when we receive Jesus Christ. God's presence augments our wisdom since it is higher than man's wisdom. James 1 says He would be happy to give you some. And we take a scientific approach to things as well as reading reports very carefully. The post said "may be spreading" and not "is spreading". Just for starters, young Earth creationism certainly flies in the face of those facts. In light of such wisdom, and people such as Benny Hinn, and countless other haphazard applications of scientific principles, I will pass on James 1 and any other numbers James has to offer. Here's some wisdom for you: SteveC 92:632 - Brethren, if all you've learned from James 1 is not to share spit in communion cup, then there's evolutionary hope for all of us. Yes... there are people who are at the fringes of everything. Just recently I was thinking of some of the atheists trying to rid true stories, like unto Corrie Ten Boom The Hiding Place from the public libraries just because of its faith content. So many people checking out their brains instead of using them. LOL - I think some live sheltered lives. Imagine making a legal suit because of their "emotional distress" in seeing the cross at ground zero. I wonder how their emotional status would be if they said that in Syria. On a more serious note, our Christian relief in Northern Iraq said another city has fallen to ISIS and Christian children are being methodically beheaded. That is more of a mental distress than seeing a cross and going bananas over books. I don't have anything but a personal message sent to a friend, but I don't doubt it.
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Post by stevec on Sept 24, 2014 17:04:41 GMT -6
Yes... there are people who are at the fringes of everything. Just recently I was thinking of some of the atheists trying to rid true stories, like unto Corrie Ten Boom The Hiding Place from the public libraries just because of its faith content. So many people checking out their brains instead of using them. Banning books is not my MO, but you have no high ground in the book banning controversy. There have been many instances of evangelical Christians doing the same in recent years. It's a wash as far as I'm concerned. Do Christians own ground zero? How would you feel if you were Jewish and you saw a cross at the spot where you lost a loved one on 9-11? More to the point of this thread, how were prayers answer on 9-11 when the towers were collapsing? How did being faithful reduce risk on that day? Again, where was your god when all this happened? If there are more distressful thing going on in the world than book bannings and cross raising, why are your people so consumed with raising crosses and banning books? How's that log in your eye? Why are ISIS followers' prayers being answered and not Christians' prayers?
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Post by ken on Sept 24, 2014 18:07:25 GMT -6
My point exactly. You have no high ground to point out Christian faults--we have them. Did you also live a sheltered life? I lived in other countries and their nuances didn't bother me a bit. As far as prayers... how can you quantify? Steve, the Bible says: Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. (Emphasis mine) Question is, are you calling your Senator?
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Post by stevec on Sept 24, 2014 18:43:49 GMT -6
Okay, those were bizarre responses.
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Post by stevec on Sept 24, 2014 19:05:35 GMT -6
Just for the sake of argument, what non-Christian countries have you lived in?
Are you positing that praying to god and contacting a congressional representative have equal efficacy? Why don't you contact Iraqi refugees and recommend contacting US senators as they're fleeing ISIS thugs.
Just bizarre, Ken. I'm seaching for evidence that praying reduces risk and you're telling me that you've lived in different countries and that I should call a senator.
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Post by stevec on Sept 24, 2014 19:16:42 GMT -6
I guess we should rename the Bible, "The Book of Obvious". Those are not prophecies, that's just history and human nature.
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Post by stevec on Sept 24, 2014 21:35:52 GMT -6
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