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Post by stevec on Aug 15, 2014 9:00:22 GMT -6
Dot,
We never got the Christian advice version, but there's no doubt Ken is embarrassed about the entire situation, so once again our questions go unanswered. We should send a sting operation to Ken's ministry. I'll ask my wife to pose as a 15 year old asking for the Christian pov on kinky sex. 5-1 odds that he'll hit on her, because that's what isolated incidents in evangelical circles indicate to be widespread.
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Post by ken on Aug 15, 2014 10:43:42 GMT -6
Not one or the other, but both. Certainly a great point. Well, you did ignore much of my points and ran all over the country with it. You are good at pointing out that I don't answer some of your questions while ignoring the fact that you do it too as you run the gamete. As far as your "pick up line"--notice again how you troll all over the country. A habit of yours. But, as scripture so well describes it "to the pure all things are pure". It is like what my daughter-in-law said when I first hugged her. She had been hugged with ulterior motives before in her life, but she just knew that hug was different and right (this was before being part of the family was even a consideration). You seem to forget that I deal with youth on a continual basis.
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Post by ken on Aug 15, 2014 10:46:35 GMT -6
Dot, We never got the Christian advice version, but there's no doubt Ken is embarrassed about the entire situation, so once again our questions go unanswered. We should send a sting operation to Ken's ministry. I'll ask my wife to pose as a 15 year old asking for the Christian pov on kinky sex. 5-1 odds that he'll hit on her, because that's what isolated incidents in evangelical circles indicate to be widespread. Why would the Christian advice be different? Wrong is wrong and right is still right. Ahh.... the troll is passing by again. Incidentally, we are just on the other side of Florida... you are welcome to come any time!
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Post by ken on Aug 15, 2014 10:49:11 GMT -6
I never ignore good, intelligent, and logical questions. Trolling, irrelevant and illogical questions are always placed to the wayside. But when problems appear again and again in multiple sites, we now have a systemic problem and not an isolated person problem. No, we know from extensive experience, Ken, that you simply ignore most questions that make you squirm, particularly those that you don't want to answer because it's pretty evident your basic view is that all any teenager should be told is, "You don't need to know about any kind of sex that isn't intended to produce babies within a good heterosexual marriage. You shouldn't WANT to know about other kinds of sex, certainly not anything abnormal like S&M. You absolutely shouldn't be thinking about doing ANYthing sexual at your age. Now, go take a cold shower and read your New Testament." (Recommending only that part since all that David/Bathsheba and Abraham/Hagar stuff might give the kid ideas, not to mention all those OT laws about nasty stuff!) [Edit to add: Interestingly, though I hadn't yet noticed when I composed the above what you told Steve you might say to such a teenager, it proves to have been pretty much as I called it here. Quelle surprise.] As for these supposed repeated problems that you insist are widespread throughout Planned Parenthood, mega-BULLSHIT. Total and complete crap. You've been challenged every time you beat this rotting dead horse to demonstrate that this is more than an isolated problem occurring infrequently. You can't do that because your sources have no conscience about editing or outright lying to support their agenda of "Just say no until marriage." They'll use whatever cheat it takes to promote as true what you and your ilk prefer to hear. Feel free to live in your fantasy world, dot. If after dozens and dozens of sting videos your synthesis of it is "mega-BULLSHIT" - then your fantasy is close to a nightmare. (With all due respect)
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Post by ken on Aug 15, 2014 10:56:33 GMT -6
As far as people are concerned, however....
1) As so many abortionists have experienced there is forgiveness through Jesus Christ and are accepted of God 2) As so many abused and misdirected youth have learned, there is healing and a new life through Jesus Christ who understands abuse. 3) As so many atheists have learned, God is patient and merciful as He continues to reach out to their hearts. 4) As so many Christians who have fallen, have given a bad rap to the message, and fall short on representing the God of Love and work towards becoming more like Him, His mercy has placed our sins as far as the east is from the west - Dot (That's Psalms 103:12) and "for He was wounded for our transgressions and bruised for our iniquities" (Is 53:5)
There is forgiveness for all.
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Post by ken on Aug 15, 2014 11:07:17 GMT -6
OMG!!!IT'S HAPPENING EVEN IN MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA!However, I'm so glad that Steve and Dot have enlightened me to say that there isn't a problem. Thanks guys/gals.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=49I2df_4PaI#t=41
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Post by stevec on Aug 15, 2014 11:16:12 GMT -6
Why do I feel like I need to hide my wife and children from you, Ken? Is it the widespread and systematic sexual abuse that runs rampant in Christian ministries? Is it the widespread and systematic cult and financial abuse that's so prevalent in evangelical circles?
Jesus and god may forgive, but I don't want you anywhere near my family. At least not until you guys stop behaving like PP!!
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Post by ken on Aug 15, 2014 11:24:19 GMT -6
Why do I feel like I need to hide my wife and children from you, Ken? Is it the widespread and systematic sexual abuse that runs rampant in Christian ministries? Is it the widespread and systematic cult and financial abuse that's so prevalent in evangelical circles? Jesus and god may forgive, but I don't want you anywhere near my family. At least not until you guys stop behaving like PP!! LOL... I guess the best defense is to crucify the innocent, seems like history is repeating itself. And if your counsel is agreeing with kinky and masochistic sex for the youth, you are scaring me. Does that mean you aren't going to visit my side?
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Post by stevec on Aug 15, 2014 15:24:28 GMT -6
Ken,
I surrounded by your side.
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Post by ken on Aug 15, 2014 17:14:46 GMT -6
Ken, I surrounded by your side. It's the love!!!
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