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May 16, 2014 7:49:27 GMT -6
Post by ken on May 16, 2014 7:49:27 GMT -6
cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-boland/sheriff-planned-parenthood-counselor-miscoded-rape-avoid-hassle-reportingGo ahead... continue defending PP. "The counselor intentionally miscoded the assault as a consensual encounter," the Sheriff's report states. "The counselor told them that they did not want the hassle of having to report the assault to law enforcement as they were a mandatory reporter." Yes... a great job. This is just one case... Can you find the statistic on how many times they never reported possible rape or sex with underage girls? Then you have their official statement of policy: Am I required to report to police? No, you are not legally obligated to report. The decision is entirely yours, and everyone will understand if you decided not to pursue prosecution. You should be aware that the district attorney's office retains the right to pursue prosecution whether or not you participate, though it is uncommon for them to proceed without the cooperation of the victim. There are also times when a third party, such as a doctor or teacher, is required to report a suspicion of sexual abuse. Many victims say that reporting is the last thing they want to do right after being attacked. That's perfectly understandable - reporting can seem invasive, time consuming and difficult. Still, there are many good reasons to report, and some victims say that reporting helped their recovery and helped them regain a feeling of control. Ken, You must understand that PP is very busy, understaffed, and cash strapped. Yes, so true. Net profit for 2013 was 11,684,934. I do hope they begin budgeting better www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/annual-report-4661.htmRight. We don't want to report babies that were birthed from rape, incest and child molestation. Other people need their services and heaven forbid we stop the man who did those things. It would take away from the income received from the additional business from more babies that are birthed by the same men. Yes. So true. Jesus did do what was written "He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed..." - He went about aborting trimester babies, lying and cheating. The same thing that he said for you... "Father forgive them because they know not what they do". But he didn't defend what was wrong--he corrected what was wrong. That's the beauty of Jesus Christ. Have you lied? He forgave you. Have you disrespected your parents? He forgave you. Did you have impure thoughts? He forgave you. Did you steal anything? He forgave you. He just plain loves you. And He is reaching out to the doctors who need psychological help.
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May 16, 2014 8:59:47 GMT -6
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Post by showmedot on May 16, 2014 8:59:47 GMT -6
The fact of the matter regarding Planned Parenthood is that virtually every one of your "source after source" you claim to have supplied here whines endlessly about a single case or two.
We've been through this before, Ken. As I pointed out with the one most recently cited which, unlike you, ADMITS that the sheriff's report is unproven, the vast majority of your sources have proven nothing because they harp on a very few cases out of the hundreds of thousands handled by Planned Parenthood annually.
Now, were that also the case with the Catholic Church, that there have actually been only a very few instances of molestation and rape by priests, you'd have a point that we should shut up about maligning the RCC's failure to deal with the problem.
The fact is that the two organizations are nowhere near comparable in guilt except that you prefer to make Planned Parenthood your scapegoat simply because they perform abortions.
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May 16, 2014 9:03:44 GMT -6
Post by ken on May 16, 2014 9:03:44 GMT -6
The fact of the matter regarding Planned Parenthood is that virtually every one of your "source after source" you claim to have supplied here whines endlessly about a single case or two. I think you need to count better. If there has been child molestation, we (as clergy) are required to report it or go to jail. Have you ever wondered why there doesn't seem to be any reporting by PP? Is it because they fear that if they report it would hinder their business?
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May 16, 2014 10:14:08 GMT -6
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Post by showmedot on May 16, 2014 10:14:08 GMT -6
Have you ever wondered why there doesn't seem to be any reporting by PP? Is it because they fear that if they report it would hinder their business? And now you've somehow expanded the few cases you've cited to "why there doesn't seem to be ANY reporting by PP." Nice work, Ken, of exaggerating to well beyond the ridiculous.
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May 16, 2014 11:39:56 GMT -6
Post by ken on May 16, 2014 11:39:56 GMT -6
Have you ever wondered why there doesn't seem to be any reporting by PP? Is it because they fear that if they report it would hinder their business? And now you've somehow expanded the few cases you've cited to "why there doesn't seem to be ANY reporting by PP." Nice work, Ken, of exaggerating to well beyond the ridiculous. Why? It seems quite logical.
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May 16, 2014 14:56:18 GMT -6
Post by Not believing what I am seeing on May 16, 2014 14:56:18 GMT -6
PP underfunded? On what planet do you live? *** Parenthood’s net revenue increased 5% to total of $1.21 billion in its organizational fiscal year ending on June 30, 2013, according to its new Annual Report 2012-2013, and about 45% of that revenue--$540.6 million--was provided by taxpayer-funded government health services grants.
In the same report, Planned Parenthood said that in the year that ended on Sept. 30, 2012 it did 327,166 abortions.
*** Only a very evil man or a very stupid one could have anything good to say about these killers. They have been hiding the sexual abuse of children for years and have been outed repeatedly. (No one is talking about adult women here)They also referred women wanting late term abortions to that house of horrors run by Gosnell of "snip their spines" fame despite knowing that it was filthy and dangerous. Everyone associated with PP should be serving life sentences like he is.
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May 16, 2014 15:06:36 GMT -6
Post by Not believing what I am seeing on May 16, 2014 15:06:36 GMT -6
The devil had a good day when he convinced stupid atheists that the Catholic Church had untold thousands of pedophile priests. It doesn't matter that the vast majority of cases were 20, 30 and 40 years old, did not involve young children but teenagers, and that every single official agency studying the matter has concluded that the rate of abuse was around 4% to 4.5%-- the same as among the clergy of all denominations. That rate is significantly lower than that of the general population were children are mostly abused by friends of the family or relatives. Then let's not even think about the rate of abuse by teachers! Now that is a fun topic.
Honestly. Get over it and start striving for knowledge of reality and honesty about it.
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May 16, 2014 15:07:53 GMT -6
Post by stevec on May 16, 2014 15:07:53 GMT -6
12 mil, is that all? PP might as well be a charity. There are prosperity gospel preachers who would laugh at that paltry profit.
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May 16, 2014 15:20:38 GMT -6
Post by stevec on May 16, 2014 15:20:38 GMT -6
PP underfunded? On what planet do you live? *** Parenthood’s net revenue increased 5% to total of $1.21 billion in its organizational fiscal year ending on June 30, 2013, according to its new Annual Report 2012-2013, and about 45% of that revenue--$540.6 million--was provided by taxpayer-funded government health services grants. In the same report, Planned Parenthood said that in the year that ended on Sept. 30, 2012 it did 327,166 abortions. *** Only a very evil man or a very stupid one could have anything good to say about these killers. They have been hiding the sexual abuse of children for years and have been outed repeatedly. (No one is talking about adult women here)They also referred women wanting late term abortions to that house of horrors run by Gosnell of "snip their spines" fame despite knowing that it was filthy and dangerous. Everyone associated with PP should be serving life sentences like he is. You don't understand the circumstances that prompted this thread. I'm only half...............alright, alright..................maybe 3/4 as evil as you think I am.
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May 16, 2014 15:26:49 GMT -6
Post by stevec on May 16, 2014 15:26:49 GMT -6
The devil had a good day when he convinced stupid atheists that the Catholic Church had untold thousands of pedophile priests. It doesn't matter that the vast majority of cases were 20, 30 and 40 years old, did not involve young children but teenagers, and that every single official agency studying the matter has concluded that the rate of abuse was around 4% to 4.5%-- the same as among the clergy of all denominations. That rate is significantly lower than that of the general population were children are mostly abused by friends of the family or relatives. Then let's not even think about the rate of abuse by teachers! Now that is a fun topic. Honestly. Get over it and start striving for knowledge of reality and honesty about it. It doesn't bother you that Jesus and the perfect word of god couldn't save a single child from pedophile priests?
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May 16, 2014 15:39:17 GMT -6
Post by stevec on May 16, 2014 15:39:17 GMT -6
Yeah, well, the Jews might have a different perspective on that, and the Apostles also did a bit of lying and cheating in that regard.
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May 16, 2014 18:34:31 GMT -6
Post by ken on May 16, 2014 18:34:31 GMT -6
12 mil, is that all? PP might as well be a charity. There are prosperity gospel preachers who would laugh at that paltry profit. As you continue to support PP and defend the offenses they have committed, I can see a strain of Pope Paul in you!
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May 16, 2014 18:38:57 GMT -6
Post by ken on May 16, 2014 18:38:57 GMT -6
The devil had a good day when he convinced stupid atheists that the Catholic Church had untold thousands of pedophile priests. It doesn't matter that the vast majority of cases were 20, 30 and 40 years old, did not involve young children but teenagers, and that every single official agency studying the matter has concluded that the rate of abuse was around 4% to 4.5%-- the same as among the clergy of all denominations. That rate is significantly lower than that of the general population were children are mostly abused by friends of the family or relatives. Then let's not even think about the rate of abuse by teachers! Now that is a fun topic. Honestly. Get over it and start striving for knowledge of reality and honesty about it. It doesn't bother you that Jesus and the perfect word of god couldn't save a single child from pedophile priests? Why to you want God to do what you are responsible for? And as PP continues its erroneous position of letting rape go unreported, the best you can do is defend it and ask why God hasn't done anything? No, my friend, the dominion on this earth is mine, yours and mankind. What are you doing to stop it?
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Post by Not believing what I am seeing on May 16, 2014 19:49:11 GMT -6
That is the $64,000 question. I think it betrays a peculiarly fundamentalist ideology married to an "expect a miracle every day" televangelist theology to tell God He is responsible for stopping all our crimes against humanity.
If atheists knew what the New Testament teaches, they would know that humanity has not been promised a carefree life. It is as hard today as it ever was. We were never promised that God would intervene to save us from all harm. There is that pesky matter of free will, you know. We can all make moral choices. Too many of us make bad ones. If I smoke for 50 years, is it God's fault if I develop lung cancer? If I get into a car drunk and kill my family as well as the family in the crosswalk I hit on my way into a wall, whose fault is that? Is that not what happens when a drunk hurls a 3,000 lb. metal projectile against human bodies?
We were promised that He would be with us in all of life's tribulations and would help us through them. But turning earth into paradise prematurely? No. Hence the suffering in this world. God, for whatever reason, thinks the pains of life are worth it to turn us into the kind of people He wants. Naturally, He does intervene occasionally. But that is up to Him. Again, a recognition of reality goes a long way towards answering tough questions.
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May 16, 2014 19:57:46 GMT -6
Post by stevec on May 16, 2014 19:57:46 GMT -6
It doesn't bother you that Jesus and the perfect word of god couldn't save a single child from pedophile priests? Why to you want God to do what you are responsible for? And as PP continues its erroneous position of letting rape go unreported, the best you can do is defend it and ask why God hasn't done anything? No, my friend, the dominion on this earth is mine, yours and mankind. What are you doing to stop it? You've got the wrong guy, I'm not going to do a damn thing about abortion. I'm more concerned about making sure the living stay that way than worrying about what is happening to a blob of cells. You haven't made the case that 20 week old fetus is a functioning human.
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