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Post by ken on Nov 19, 2015 20:12:21 GMT -6
What's funny, Ken, is that you would probably be advocating for non sectarian governments in the Middle East in order to protect Christians in those countries, yet you demand sectarianism here in the US. Am I right? I'll respond to your posts tomorrow. Obama messed up the Middle East with his infamous "Spring Offensive". The ONLY thing that would change that area is the Gospel. I advocate for peace--Many of those countries were Islamic but still at peace. I also understand that changing the government doesn't change the heart.
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Post by stevec on Nov 30, 2015 13:24:15 GMT -6
What's funny, Ken, is that you would probably be advocating for non sectarian governments in the Middle East in order to protect Christians in those countries, yet you demand sectarianism here in the US. Am I right? I'll respond to your posts tomorrow. Obama messed up the Middle East with his infamous "Spring Offensive". The ONLY thing that would change that area is the Gospel. I advocate for peace--Many of those countries were Islamic but still at peace. I also understand that changing the government doesn't change the heart. The Jews have had the Torah in the area for many thousands of years. Are you saying what you consider the Old Testament is ineffective? The Gospel has been in the area for 2000 years,. Jesus, why is it taking so long to work? The message is closer to extinction in the Middle East than it ever was. The message is failing. People in the Middle East recognize the Gospel for what it is, some other culture's perception of god - a step below what they alrrady believe. The high water mark for the Gospel in the Middle East was reached years ago, now you'll witness the long decline. It's horrible, people will suffer and die, and that will be the measure of god's and the Gospels' ineffectiveness.
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Post by stevec on Nov 30, 2015 13:30:41 GMT -6
Ken,
Your Obama is silly. The Middle East has been screwed up since god was introduced. Pick up a history book for Christ's sake.
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Post by ken on Nov 30, 2015 18:01:01 GMT -6
Ken, Your Obama is silly. The Middle East has been screwed up since god was introduced. Pick up a history book for Christ's sake. Obama is now part of the history book. He added an extra screw!
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Post by ken on Nov 30, 2015 18:07:29 GMT -6
Obama messed up the Middle East with his infamous "Spring Offensive". The ONLY thing that would change that area is the Gospel. I advocate for peace--Many of those countries were Islamic but still at peace. I also understand that changing the government doesn't change the heart. The Jews have had the Torah in the area for many thousands of years. Are you saying what you consider the Old Testament is ineffective? The Gospel has been in the area for 2000 years,. Jesus, why is it taking so long to work? The message is closer to extinction in the Middle East than it ever was. The message is failing. People in the Middle East recognize the Gospel for what it is, some other culture's perception of god - a step below what they alrrady believe. The high water mark for the Gospel in the Middle East was reached years ago, now you'll witness the long decline. It's horrible, people will suffer and die, and that will be the measure of god's and the Gospels' ineffectiveness. Hmmm... I don't agree. The Gospel still works. In the Middle East, it is spreading faster than what you think. I have an Iranian friend who sends the gospel via Satellite into Iran... people are responding but understand that flaunting that you are a Christian in Iran carries a heavy penalty.
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Post by stevec on Dec 2, 2015 23:38:53 GMT -6
What does your Iranian friend do for a living?
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Post by stevec on Dec 2, 2015 23:44:27 GMT -6
Ken, Your Obama is silly. The Middle East has been screwed up since god was introduced. Pick up a history book for Christ's sake. Obama is now part of the history book. He added an extra screw! Every president in the last 50 years can be perceived as having added a screw. What is your point?
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Post by ken on Dec 5, 2015 19:55:39 GMT -6
Hie was using a nail gun
i think we just got off on a tangent
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Post by ken on Dec 5, 2015 19:58:59 GMT -6
He sold BMW's when he was beaming the signal - but now he is starting Iranian churches
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Post by stevec on Dec 7, 2015 22:25:28 GMT -6
He sold BMW's when he was beaming the signal - but now he is starting Iranian churches What are you talking about?
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Post by ken on Dec 9, 2015 20:43:26 GMT -6
He sold BMW's when he was beaming the signal - but now he is starting Iranian churches What are you talking about? Answering your question "What does your Iranian friend do for a living?"
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Post by stevec on Dec 10, 2015 8:20:33 GMT -6
What are you talking about? Answering your question "What does your Iranian friend do for a living?" So he was a car salesman before he became a preacher, lol, and no doubt PG preacher now to put the icing on the cake. Oy veh!
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Post by ken on Dec 10, 2015 10:01:51 GMT -6
Answering your question "What does your Iranian friend do for a living?" So he was a car salesman before he became a preacher, lol, and no doubt PG preacher now to put the icing on the cake. Oy veh! LOL, I knew that your only defense would be to attack the messenger since you couldn't attack the message. All car salesman are snakes All doctors have ulterior motives All pastors are in it for the money unless they are poverty preachers All lawyers are thieves The only perfect people are people like you... Got it!! And a Blessed Christmas to you!!
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Post by ken on Dec 10, 2015 10:24:32 GMT -6
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Post by stevec on Dec 11, 2015 15:51:37 GMT -6
So he was a car salesman before he became a preacher, lol, and no doubt PG preacher now to put the icing on the cake. Oy veh! LOL, I knew that your only defense would be to attack the messenger since you couldn't attack the message. All car salesman are snakes All doctors have ulterior motives All pastors are in it for the money unless they are poverty preachers All lawyers are thieves The only perfect people are people like you... Got it!! And a Blessed Christmas to you!! Never said any of those things. What I did imply before, but will now state for the record, is that a car salesman turn preacher is more than likely a snake. No doubt he saw how well guys like Copeland, Osteen, etc, were doing and realized that god was more profitable than cars. Your profession attracts weasels like that - Copeland, Osteen for example.
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