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Post by ken on Jun 28, 2014 11:07:37 GMT -6
I read through the list of who can file for exemptions: But then I found a list of exempted companies and am wondering how they qualified. Any help? |
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Post by ken on Jun 30, 2014 19:45:37 GMT -6
Do I assume, for the lack of answers, that most of the corporate exemptions are purely political and a violation of the law?
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Post by stevec on Jul 1, 2014 20:32:48 GMT -6
I don't understand the issue as you've presented it. Was there a conservative exemption preamble that I missed along the way?
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Post by ken on Jul 2, 2014 16:26:05 GMT -6
I don't understand the issue as you've presented it. Was there a conservative exemption preamble that I missed along the way? Just wondering how those companies were able to be exempted. I don't see the legal qualification. Was that your answer? |
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Post by stevec on Jul 2, 2014 19:20:13 GMT -6
I don't understand the issue as you've presented it. Was there a conservative exemption preamble that I missed along the way? Just wondering how those companies were able to be exempted. I don't see the legal qualification. Was that your answer? Is there an article I can read that would put everything in context. |
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Post by ken on Jul 3, 2014 15:13:41 GMT -6
These are the legal reasons for opting out. blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/09/who-is-exempt-from-obamacares-mandate.htmlAccording to the law, the people who do not have to comply with Obamacare's mandate, and who will not face any penalty for noncompliance, are: Individuals who cannot afford coverage. For 2014, this means people who cannot afford health insurance because the premium (based on the lowest-cost Bronze plan, or the individual's share of an employer-sponsored plan) exceeds 8 percent of their household income. After 2014, the Secretary of Health and Human Services may revise the threshold. Individuals with household income below the filing threshold. This means anyone who doesn't have to file a federal income tax return. Members of federally recognized Indian tribes. The Federal Register maintains a list of federally recognized Indian tribes. Individuals who experience a hardship. According to HealthCare.gov, potential hardships may include being homeless, filing for bankruptcy, being a recent victim of domestic violence, or having been evicted in the past six months, among many others. Individuals who experience a short coverage gap. In general, this means a lapse in coverage of less than three months in a calendar year. Members of certain religious sects. Also sometimes called the "religious conscience" exemption, these religious sects must be recognized by the Social Security Administration as being "conscientiously opposed to accepting any insurance benefits," the IRS explains. As described in Section 1402 of the tax code, these sects must have been in existence since at least December 31, 1950. Members of a health care sharing ministry. Qualified nonprofit health care sharing ministries must meet the tax code's definition of such a group, and must have been in existence since at least December 31, 1999. Incarcerated individuals. This includes people in jail, prison, and other penal institutions. Individuals who are not lawfully present. This means anyone who is not a U.S. citizen or national. |
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Post by stevec on Jul 3, 2014 22:30:18 GMT -6
I want to know 2 things,
1. Why was the alphabetical list started and stopped about 20 times?
2. The Waffle House............ Really? Their food is so unhealthy, they should paying for all their customers' health care needs.
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Post by ken on Jul 4, 2014 6:24:50 GMT -6
I want to know 2 things, 1. Why was the alphabetical list started and stopped about 20 times? 2. The Waffle House............ Really? Their food is so unhealthy, they should paying for all their customers' health care needs. 1) Probably because when people answered or added it reproduced the previous? 2) But tasty. Regardless, if all of these companies are exempted for political reasons, how can the basics of Obamacare be any different? If we are going to have universal care, I just wish they would do thing honestly and for the benefit of all without dishing out cookies or the giving out of special favors. |
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Post by stevec on Jul 4, 2014 7:34:02 GMT -6
I can't agree with you more, Ken, but I'm sure there are a bunch of Republican supporters on that list also. This idea that the list is all about the Dems is a joke. Just because the GOP doesn't support Obamacare doesn't mean that they have no power in granting exemptions. Until someone can supply evidence for which organizations supports which political party, the effort to blame one party is a joke.
We have a list, now we need evidence to support conservative claims that it is a Dem creation. It may be like opening Pandora's Box for the GOP.
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Post by ken on Jul 4, 2014 19:48:44 GMT -6
I agree completely.
The culprits are on both sides and I can only see anger growing in the populace because of the favoritism. Sometimes I wonder if we are going back to the King George era.
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Post by stevec on Jul 4, 2014 20:10:51 GMT -6
I agree completely. The culprits are on both sides and I can only see anger growing in the populace because of the favoritism. Sometimes I wonder if we are going back to the King George era. Why the pessimism? Americans have never been more free. Embrace it, Ken. |
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Post by stevec on Jul 4, 2014 22:27:53 GMT -6
Ken,
Not only that, but you can drink all the tea you want, tax free, and stamps too - they're only 49 cents.
You should have seen my sis in law's boyfriend grilling outside during the hurricane. It was inspirational - rain blowing sideways, soaking wet, and he trudged on, chicken, hamburgers, and hotdogs all came out perfectly. It's those types of stories and people that make this country great, not what politicians do.
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Post by ken on Jul 5, 2014 17:21:27 GMT -6
I agree completely. The culprits are on both sides and I can only see anger growing in the populace because of the favoritism. Sometimes I wonder if we are going back to the King George era. Why the pessimism? Americans have never been more free. Embrace it, Ken. Assuming this is correct... bills passed. www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/signed-legislationSince 2012 - 17 pages of laws have been signed by our President. (Not a dig on Obama, its been going on for many presidents). You can't have that many laws being sign into existence and still say we "have never been more free". To say nothing of State, County and City laws. |
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Post by ken on Jul 5, 2014 17:22:30 GMT -6
Ken, Not only that, but you can drink all the tea you want, tax free, and stamps too - they're only 49 cents. You should have seen my sis in law's boyfriend grilling outside during the hurricane. It was inspirational - rain blowing sideways, soaking wet, and he trudged on, chicken, hamburgers, and hotdogs all came out perfectly. It's those types of stories and people that make this country great, not what politicians do. LOL... not to mention the fireworks that went on incessantly forever and all over the place. |
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