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Post by Flitzerbiest on Jan 31, 2014 15:44:25 GMT -6
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Post by showmedot on Jan 31, 2014 18:03:06 GMT -6
Or Mother Teresa's. Abortion and contraception being the worst scourges on earth yanno.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 18:20:07 GMT -6
Or Mother Teresa's. Abortion and contraception being the worst scourges on earth yanno. Hi Dot: I'm sure Mother Teresa was anti-abortion, but that was not her issue. Her life's work concerned helping the truly poor and starving. For many decades she worked in slums anonymously. Mother Teresa is as deserving of a peace prize as any humanitarian. "Mother Teresa founded the Missionaries of Charity, a Roman Catholic religious congregation, which in 2012 consisted of over 4,500 sisters and is active in 133 countries. They run hospices and homes for people with HIV/AIDS, leprosy and tuberculosis; soup kitchens; dispensaries and mobile clinics; children's and family counseling programmes; orphanages; and schools. Members of the order must adhere to the vows of chastity, poverty and obedience, and the fourth vow, to give "Wholehearted and Free service to the poorest of the poor"." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_TeresaJim |
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Post by showmedot on Jan 31, 2014 19:04:28 GMT -6
Do some more reading, Jim. You've bought the propaganda.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 19:09:09 GMT -6
Do some more reading, Jim. You've bought the propaganda. Seriously? I'll admit that my knowledge of Mother Teresa is superficial, but are you saying that she didn't help the poor in Calcutta and elsewhere? That would be pretty shocking. Jim |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 19:13:40 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 19:23:54 GMT -6
Hi Dot: Ok, Google reveals Christopher Hitchen's book and some stuff in similar vein. I was unaware of this angle. Hatchet job or necessary expose? I'll let you know if I dig in enough to form an opinion. Jim |
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Post by Flitzerbiest on Jan 31, 2014 19:43:26 GMT -6
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Post by showmedot on Jan 31, 2014 20:14:41 GMT -6
She took a big chunk of cash from Charles Keating, for one.
Medical care given the destitute poor in her hospices was appallingly inadequate. Mother T's philosophy was that redemption came via suffering, and she was the agent thereof.
Hitchens' book, The Missionary Position, is a sober and measured examination. Highly recommended as is Mary Johnson's An Unquenchable Thirst. Johnson was an MOC nun for years and writes fairly and judiciously given the flagrant abuses and deceptions she witnessed firsthand.
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Post by Flitzerbiest on Jan 31, 2014 20:31:10 GMT -6
She took a big chunk of cash from Charles Keating, for one. And Baby Doc Duvalier. Medical care given the destitute poor in her hospices was appallingly inadequate. Mother T's philosophy was that redemption came via suffering, and she was the agent thereof. Hitchens' book, The Missionary Position, is a sober and measured examination. Highly recommended as is Mary Johnson's An Unquenchable Thirst. Johnson was an MOC nun for years and writes fairly and judiciously given the flagrant abuses and deceptions she witnessed firsthand. We wanted to believe in Teresa about as much as she wanted to believe in God. |
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Post by showmedot on Jan 31, 2014 20:52:54 GMT -6
The YouTube video by Hitchens entitled "Hell's Angel" hits the main points. I'd link it but am on my iPhone.
Use YT search for "Hitchens- Mother Teresa" and you'll find it. About 23 mins. long.
Hitchens' book, The Missionary Position is short and not at all a polemic as so much else he wrote. What he asserts is well documented by others.
She was a fraud, plain and simple, who cruelly skimped on medical care to the dying in her hospices but accepted donations of first class airfare and heart surgery in the U.S. when she needed it.
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Post by Flitzerbiest on Feb 3, 2014 14:22:47 GMT -6
Hey Trout,
I don't know if you have had a chance to do a bit of fact checking on the life and practices of Mother Teresa. I wonder if you were surprised to find out that she was such an attention hound and so ineffective as a minister to the poor. Teresa became (in the public eye, anyway) a saint because we have an existential need to feel better about the vast gaps in wealth, opportunity over which we feel powerless. Truth be told (and it's starting to be) she was a fake.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 16:27:07 GMT -6
Hey Trout, I don't know if you have had a chance to do a bit of fact checking on the life and practices of Mother Teresa. I wonder if you were surprised to find out that she was such an attention hound and so ineffective as a minister to the poor. Teresa became (in the public eye, anyway) a saint because we have an existential need to feel better about the vast gaps in wealth, opportunity over which we feel powerless. Truth be told (and it's starting to be) she was a fake. FB Hi FB: I glanced at some of the pro/con webpages. I was surprised to see that she is reviled by some. I don't have an opinion concerning whether she was a fraud or fake as reported by you and Dot. I'm not planning on digging deep enough into the primary writings by her and about her to form a legitimate personal opinion. That type of study takes a long time to do properly, and this particular topic is not going to win the competition for my personal reading time. Bottom line is I now know that a sizable faction believes her to have been a fraud, and a sizable faction supports her. That's about as far into this particular topic as I'm likely to dig. Jim |
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Post by showmedot on Feb 3, 2014 16:46:49 GMT -6
Sad to say, while my childhood faith wisely discontinued selling indulgences, selling relics of saints remains big business.
Thanks to JP2, rushing people to sainthood became equally popular. Prior to his papacy, there was at least a semblance of diligence in investigating a candidate's worthiness which typically took 50-60 years at the least.
But then, people will buy most anything if it has an appealing image. Didn't Consumer Reports determine that well over 90% of bottled "spring" water is tap water?
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