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Post by Flitzerbiest on Jan 25, 2014 9:42:22 GMT -6
I had the chance to read a few more articles about this case last night which shed light on the medical aspects. Most articles refer to the mother having died of a blood clot, with an implication that this was in her brain. It turns out she died of a pulmonary embolism, which is a blood clot in the lungs. In other words, her death was caused by a lack of oxygen of oxygen to her brain over a long period of time. This allows a much greater degree of certainty about the condition of the fetus. The lack of oxygen would also have been present for the fetus over the same period of time, producing almost certain brain damage if not brain death.
I think this helps shed light on the family's decision, although again, I think the family's right to determine what is done with the dead woman's body is inviolable.
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Post by stevec on Jan 25, 2014 12:05:55 GMT -6
There may be a point to the claim that the hospital and pro-life groups see this as an opportunity to experiment, as sick as that may be, to show how far technology has come to preserve fetuses under difficult circumstances. Hopefully their perverted experiment ends Monday.
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Post by malleodei on Jan 26, 2014 10:35:30 GMT -6
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Post by stevec on Jan 26, 2014 11:58:46 GMT -6
There's a lot on info missing from this person's story, so I hardly see how it's relevant to the OP. You and your Dr. Frankenstein friends still have a lot to learn about love and family it seems. Take your sacrificial nonsense and go perch yourself on some gothic church.
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Post by stevec on Jan 26, 2014 15:31:53 GMT -6
Okie dokey. It's good thing there's assholes like me around to protect the living. There are probably thousands people alive today, other people's little girls, due to the availability of abortions. You probably don't care about those children though, who would've committed suicide or died in backroom clinics, because anyone who got knocked up or considered suicide deserved their sinful fates. Whatever, they seem expendable to you, so that you can feel good before your god. I know women who have had abortions and they are grateful. Then there are those women, who pro-lifers enjoy profiling, who feel remorse and then feel better because Jesus and god forgave them for having abortions. Everybody ends up feeling good somehow, you, me, women who have had abortions, and those that Jesus forgave, but only because everybody had a choice. It's obvious your myopic superstitious little world can't deal with all people, all issues, all solutions, so you pick one, telling all others to fuck off.
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Post by Flitzerbiest on Jan 26, 2014 17:43:51 GMT -6
So what's your official title in the church, Malleo? Deacon?
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Post by stevec on Feb 6, 2014 10:50:15 GMT -6
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Post by Flitzerbiest on Feb 6, 2014 12:13:02 GMT -6
This time, it is not a case of "flogging the body" in violation of the family's wishes. No issue, as far as I can see.
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Post by showmedot on Feb 6, 2014 13:05:43 GMT -6
Gets my vote.
I just hope little Iver is okay upon delivery
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Post by Flitzerbiest on Mar 1, 2014 12:37:24 GMT -6
Atheists More Likely to Hasten Death?Well, no. Actually, it turns out they are more likely to have informed consent conversations that include non-treatment and palliative care as viable alternatives to futile therapy. Nothing in the study had anything to do with interventions to "off Grandma". Rather it dealt with how physicians talked to their patients and what options they laid out.
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Post by stevec on Mar 1, 2014 15:23:26 GMT -6
Nothing in the original article reference "offing grandma". It seemed rather well balanced, but it did have a really stupid and misleading title.
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Post by stevec on Mar 1, 2014 15:29:49 GMT -6
Malloe's post put a smile on my face. It was worth scrolling down.
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